Home
thepandorarose [userpic]

A Capable Woman: 16/28 Nathan/Heidi, Peter, Mr and Mrs Arthur Petrelli

July 2nd, 2008 (12:08 pm)

Before a woman is strong, she is weak -- strong is a lot more fun...


Chapter:
Chapter 16 (16/28)
Characters/Pairings (This chapter):
Summary: We are not all born full of sin, we acquire it over time.
Chapter 16 Summary: A new woman in Nathan's life.
Category: General (with a splash of tragic love)
Status: Incomplete
Rating: PG-13 (for adult themes) (this chapter is PG)
Spoiler alert: The entire series
Note: Each chapter is written as one whole, separate, story and be viewed as such. Together they are a life. (For explanation of the entire series see prologue post) Previous chapters:
PROLOUGE ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE TEN ELEVEN
12 13 14 15
(*You must read the prologue or you may misunderstand the top of chapter one)

 

Chapter 16 

Chapter Sixteen

Nathan/Heidi, Arthur/Angela, Peter, The Haitian, birth of and mentions of Simon & Monty,


1994

When the future Mrs. Heidi Petrelli was officially introduced to the Petrelli Family, she had been dating Nathan for a little under a year. Nathan wanted to be sure of a lot of things before he introduced Heidi to his parents, and Angela knew that. The wise choice, Angela thought, although Nathan never confided that secret to Angela, only to Peter or his father. Nathan was considered a very sought-after bachelor in New York City at the time, despite his family’s now dirty reputation. Although Nathan seemed to be trying to go against that reputation by taking a job in the district attorney’s office, something Heidi found courageous in many respects.

“He must be serious about this one,” Angela retorted through her reading glasses, as she sat in bed with her husband, and a political book she had been given as a gift.

“I suppose so,” Arthur said, before kissing her goodnight. “Let’s see how special she is tomorrow.” He turned off his bedside light as Angela nodded her head, yes.

That night Angela’s dream didn’t make much sense. People with abilities in cages; being hunted. It was always her worst fear, something everyone in the Company knew would happen if people like themselves were revealed to the public. But was this dream real or just standing in for her own feelings and fears? Angela no longer kept a dream book, so she tucked the thoughts back into another part of her mind, where perhaps she could make sense of it later.

Angela Petrelli was now forty-eight years old.

Before Nathan and Heidi arrived for dinner, Arthur found Angela asleep in a chair in the living room, a book on her lap.

The doorbell rang and Arthur motioned to his almost fifteen-year-old son Peter, “Wake your mother.”

Angela opened her eyes to her son Peter’s sweet large smile. “Hey sleepy head, “ he said to her, just as she used to say to him as achild. “Come on, Nathan’s here.”

Angela smiled for she had been having a pleasant dream. She was visiting Claire, watching her grow up, and it gave Angela pleasure to watch Claire at important events in the girl’s life, watching over her the way no one else could, like an angel. But to Angela it still wasn’t enough and she and her husband had a plan waiting in the wings, biding its time for when Claire finally manifested, for the time when hiding the girl in plain sight was no longer an option. Based on her dreams, Angela guessed Claire would manifest around sixteen, just as Angela had - Claire had twelve years to go.

“Do, I have to?” Angela groaned in a joking tone.

“Yeah... I think so.” Peter gave his mother an off-center smile and motioned with his head toward the door.

“You know...we could just get out of here, grab a slice of pizza, no one would be the wiser.” She squinted her eyes, looking at him impishly.

“This is an interesting look for you.“ He raised his eyebrows. “You’re scared.”

“No... I’m not scared, please.” She stood up from her chair. “I’m just tired. Besides, you owe me.”

“And why is that?” He smirked at her.

Angela put her arm around her son and guided him toward the foyer. “You had a very large head.”

“Yeah, nice, like that’s my fault.” Peter laughed, as they reached the foyer and Nathan and Heidi. Peter smiled at Nathan and his new girlfriend, whom he had already met, as Angela took a breath, tossed her head back, and put on her best and most polite public smile.

Peter saw that change in his mother and wondered why she kept herself so guarded, that she felt at times she had to be two people.

The Petrelli Home

1995

Nathan leaned on the lip of a small shelf in his father’s study, looking as if he had something important to say. He gripped an old baseball he had taken off the shelf, which had been in his father’s office since as far as the boy could remember. Of course, Nathan was no longer a boy, he was a lawyer, twenty-seven-years old, an ex-military man, and a pride to his family - he was their hero. Nathan’s hero was standing right in front of him: his father.

Nathan’s father practiced his golf putting on a small green he had set up in front of his desk. Angela, sitting in the living room, pretended she couldn’t hear the two men, as she put together a scrapbook of old pictures.

Nathan looked on from the other side of the study watching his father. “Pop...” he paused, a little unsure how to ask. “When did you know... I mean... What...what made you fall in love with Ma? How did you know?”

Arthur got a devilish look on his face and paused from his putting. “She had a great ass.” He sent his golf ball forward and it hit its mark – hole in one.

“Pop!?” Nathan stood up in protest; he didn’t want to hear that.

Arthur walked toward Nathan with his putter in hand. “I’m tellin’ ya –you had to see it...” he teased his son.

“Pop!?” He gripped the baseball and gestured his arms out at his father. “Like now I’ll ever get that image out of my head.”

Arthur laughed. “Ya gotta learn kid, your parents are only human,” he patted his son on the side of his face like a good Italian man. He raised his eyebrows and crossed back to his desk.

“I’m serious, Pop. Come on. I never asked you about this before. I...I wanna know.” He got a little shy and boyish. “Ya know - that when you met Ma... how you knew that she was the one. The one you wanted to spend the rest of your life with...”

“That I loved her?” Arthur asked, as he set his putter up against the side of the fireplace.

Arthur looked off through the open double doors of his study at Angela, remembering the girl she had been. “Well, she was beautiful for sure.” He put his hands in his pockets and nodded his head. “She had that beauty, still does, that took my breath away – Ahhh and she was so young. “ He opened his mouth and nodded his head. “I couldn’t believe how young she was - her skin was so white I thought I’d break it if I touched it. And I just had to have her.” He looked over at his son. “She was like a babble in my collection. Just another thing on my shelf... and my mistake was I treated her that way. I wasn’t mature enough to see her as a person; I saw her as a thing – I wanted to possess her. I wanted to live up to her. I was blinded. I was weak. I wanted to be enough for her. Her smile, her laugh, her intelligence...” He made his hand into a fist for a moment, “That fire in her soul.” He put his hand back in his pocket and looked at his son. ”And I’ve put her through so much. Too much. I...I...” He trailed off, but got connected back to his objective. “ I have a lot of regrets, Nathan – but I think the biggest one - the things I did wrong. The thing I can’t make right. Is what I did to her, what I can’t take back – shaped who she became. “

“Pop, I’m not following-“

“Your mother has lived through a lot because of me and my actions. She was too young for all of this; I should have let her study –travel. I shouldn’t have married her so young.” He paused and looked at Nathan. “And she loves you boys so much, Nathan.” He walked toward his son. “You know that, right?”

“I do, Pop,” he said sheepishly. He wasn’t sure where it was all going.

“This is about Heidi?” Arthur put his hand on his son’s shoulder and gripped it. “You think you’re in love with Heidi?”

Nathan looked away and then raised his eyes up at his father. “I think so,” he nodded his head.

“You buy a ring?” Arthur asked.

“Last week...” Nathan had a sheepish look of pride on his face. He was obviously too afraid to ask her yet.

“It big? Never mess with a woman and her jewelry, I learned that from your mother.”

“Yeah, yeah...” he nodded his head in a self-conscious way.

Arthur looked at his son with such pride, his eyes popped. “Well, then congratulations.” Arthur grinned. “Your mother will be pleased.”

“Really? I think Heidi’s scared of her.” Nathan joked, but really he wasn’t. Nathan reached his arm back and scratched the back of his head.

“She’s very protective of you boys.” Arthur looked at his son and felt that warm fatherly feeling he had first felt in the hospital, when Nathan was born, so many years ago. He had to take a deep breath to hold in his emotion. Nathan was a true and loyal son to Arthur and made him feel, inside, as if Angela had given birth to his best friend. “No...” He shook his head and placed his other hand on his son’s shoulder. “She’ll be very happy.”

Angela smiled from the living room. She knew she would never be completely happy with any woman her sons brought home; it was just who she was. But Heidi was a perfect wife for Nathan in the best way Angela knew how and the only way Arthur was alluding to. And that was that unlike all of the other Petrellis, Heidi was just nothing special. She was the perfect wife for Nathan in Angela’s eyes. The cycle could stop; Angela only hoped.


Nathan’s Wedding

The Central Park Boathouse

1997




Boathouse


Angela Petrelli didn’t worry about her son when he went off to war. When he flew missions in Bosnia, Serbia and Rwanda, because she knew his destiny, she knew he would be safe. She knew his plane would be shot down and that the cuts on his chins would later become scars, and that he would walk with a cane for three months. That was as far as the story went. Angela saw him coming home, but she also knew that history could be changed. So, perhaps, she was in denial about how inevitable the future could be.

Still, Angela took too much notice and too much attention to Nathan’s wedding than Arthur thought was necessary. And when Heidi asked Nathan to find a way to get his mother out of her way, on what was “her” big day and not Angela’s — Arthur Petrelli laughed at the situation harder than he had in years. He laughed at his own wife; it was just who he was.

Angela stood off to the side as the photographer took pictures of her boys, nicely dressed in their black ties and suits. Flash. Flash. Flash. Angela brimmed with pride. She had no idea it would be the picture she would most treasure when mourning the death of one of them. One would say these pictures would become infamous, but all Angela Petrelli knew, at the time, was they were pictures that already had a reserved place in her living room.

For all of the Petrelli boys’ lives there was a table in the living room filled with pictures, so full it almost looked like a forest; many visitors to the house would remark on it. Until Peter was eleven, the pictures had all been set on a piano. No one in the Petrelli home actually played the piano. Nathan wanted to as a child, but he was told it would disturb his mother, while the parade of doctors came in and out of her room trying to figure out what was wrong with her. Peter didn’t even understand it was a piano until he was four; it was just a place to put the pictures.

Still, it was a monument that had always been around and something, Heidi would say, that spoke louder than words. And although they got along, but still hardly agreed, Heidi would tell Nathan that when she thought about all of those pictures in her mother-in-law’s living room, she knew the woman meant well, as much as often times

“But, isn’t that what mother-in-laws are for?” she would joke to Peter, whom she got along with famously.

“She means well,” Peter would say with a smile, hating to really be on anyone’s side in a difficult situation.

“We all do.” Heidi would say, before giving Peter a hug and asking him about his day, what college he was planning to attend or how she hoped her children would be as kind and understanding as Nathan’s little brother.

Most people at the wedding couldn’t believe that Angela was the mother of the groom. Heidi’s parents were at least ten to fifteen years older than she was. Angela loved that. She loved that power.

Long gone were the days when Angela’s youth and beauty got men’s heads to turn, doors to open, and opinions to change. She was still a beautiful woman, as Arthur would tell her – a handsome woman, “for her age.” But Angela no longer had that power a woman like Heidi had. And Angela remembered how much she loved it when she had that power and how it made her naive and foolish. Angela Petrelli was a woman well equated with the drawbacks of power.

“There has to be something you like about your power,” Charles once asked her. “It can’t all be a burden to you?”

“Truthfully...” She smiled, fingering the edge of the glass. “I love the way they look at me. The way they revere my thoughts, my words, the way the hairs on the back of their necks stand up when I enter a room. I loved the respect.”

Yes, Angela Petrelli was well equated with the spoils of power, and now she was slowly paying for it. Her foolish follies of epic proportion had thrown her down a sinkhole she was now crawling out of by her fingernails. But today was a happy day; there weren’t many of those.

Yet Angela still seemed to drift into the past on that day, something she almost never did - Angela Petrelli always looked to the future. Only fools look to the past, she often thought, but then who wanted to wallow in regret all the time?

Angela remembered the day she told Nathan Claire was dead, which was a lie, and that Meredith was dead, which she thought was the truth. He cried in her arms, something Nathan hadn’t done since he was a small child. She held his head in her hands and brought it to her chest, gently stroking her red fingernails through his soft hair.

“Shhhh...” She told him, like a child, “Shhhh,” knowing full well she had caused the pain in her son’s heart. Yet she felt it was the right thing to do.

Nathan’s folly would not ruin another life, as her folly had ruined hers. Angela Petrelli was a woman well acquainted with the truth; she just knew when and how to wield it. Angela knew full well that she was committing a wrong toward Nathan, but she felt it was a right towards Claire. And she knew she was committing a sin as a mother toward her son, but she didn’t care.

She didn’t care because she believed she was saving not just Claire, but Nathan, saving him from her own despair, the despair the life would cause that girl, and him, if she stayed a Petrelli. Yes, Angela Petrelli told herself she did it all because it was the best for everyone. But really it was the best for Angela. And she knew that too, deep down she knew, had to have known, that.

Boathouse at night

 

“We have a problem, “ Arthur scooped his arm into Angela’s arm as she walked outside of the party, surveying the guests on the veranda.

Angela kept on walking, as if nothing was wrong, looking up at him with her eye balls, she knew those words weren’t good.

After about five steps, Arthur looked around and opened a small glass door for Angela. Angela looked around and entered the door; Arthur followed and closed the door behind him.

“Stafford escaped,” Arthur pulled the curtains closed.

“How?”

“Adam tried another prison break. Stafford got out in the melee.”

“Anyone else?”

“A few rogues, but they were caught.” Arthur took his gun out. It was just a precaution. “He’s on his way here.”

“What?”

“He knows who we are, Angela. Of course he’d come after us first. Has he been in your dreams?”

“No.”

“I called in back-up. Just be aware. You see him, you call me.”

She nodded her head.

“Keep an eye on Nathan and Peter.”

“I will.”

He nodded his head and walked out the back door.



Wedding

About a half hour later Angela was doing her duty as the mother of the groom when she saw Harry peek his head into the hall to get her attention. Angela excused herself and exited out into the hallway.

Harry took her by the waist and whispered in her ear as they made their way through the hallway. “We got him; it’s too dangerous to take him out in the woods – someone could see - we need you to watch the door.”

Angela eyed him.

“It wasn’t my idea.”

They reached the door Harry was referring to. It was the door to the same room Arthur had spoken to Angela in only moments before.

“By the way, sweetie,” Harry eyed her. “You look simply ravishing.” He smiled. “I’d eat you up, but I’m a vegetarian now.” He smirked and entered the door. Angela kept watch.

After about five minutes, Angela caught sight of Peter.

“Hey, Mom.” He walked over to her.

“Hello, dear.” She smiled

He kissed her on the cheek. “Dad in there? Nathan’s looking for him.”

“He’s making a phone call.” The door opened and a rush of air was heard. Angela grabbed the door and slammed it closed. “He wants his privacy.” She said without batting an eye, holding the door shut by the doorknob, and the weight of her body.

“Okay?” he was confused.

“We’ll be right there. Go tell your brother. Your father wants me to wait for him.”

Peter looked at her funny.

“He’s on the phone with Mr. Linderman.” She nodded her head. “You understand, Peter.” Angela looked at Peter and dusted a piece off lint of her son’s shoulder.

Peter got a sour look on his face and started to walk from the door. Angela knew just the right way to get her son to go away and just the right thing to bring him back again, if she needed to.

Peter walked away from his mother with an odd feeling in his gut. He looked back,one last time, to see his mother was still perched at the door, as if guarding it. Finally, Arthur Petrelli emerged to the sudden shock and relief of his mother.

“It’s done.” He said adjusting his tux and bow tie. Arthur Petrelli took in a deep breath. “Oh, man that felt good – it’s good to be alive isn’t it?” He grabbed Angela and pulled her close, causing her to let out a yelp of surprise. He reached down grabbed her ass for a moment and kissed her hard and long - Angela was shocked.

“Arthur!” Angela then caught sight of Peter, who was looking at them.

Peter tried to hold in his laughter.

Angela looked around, acting as if she was mortified that her husband had done such a thing in public, but Peter could see she secretly loved it. It was then that Peter saw for the first time since he was a small child how much his parents loved each other. He didn’t understand it, but he got it. And he hoped some day he’d have someone to love like that.

It was then that Peter turned toward the door of the main banquet hall and he caught sight of his brother dancing with his new bride. And Peter too wished he could find a love like Heidi and one day be a great man like his brother. They didn’t always agree, but Peter looked at his brother with hero’s eyes and hoped one day he could grow up and be like him, Peter was only eighteen.

That night Arthur Petrelli had his second “heart attack”.

Two Years Later

“It’s a boy!” Nathan screamed, dressed in scrubs from head to toe. “A boy!” He took his baby brother by the neck and shoulder and hugged him tightly. “A boy!” He held his brother’s face in both his hands.

Peter was elated for his brother.

“Five pounds, seven ounces.” He reached toward his mother.

“How’s Heidi?” Angela asked, kissing her son on the check and hugging him.

“She’s great, she’s doing great, Ma.” Nathan looked around, as he released from his mother’s embrace. “Where’s Pop?”

“Pressing business, he couldn’t stay. He wishes he could have.”

Arthur Petrelli seemed to be away at the oddest times. He wasn’t in the hospital when Peter was born, or now, at the moment his first grandson was born, but Angela was. Company business took Arthur from his family, but never Angela. But then again, her family had become her company business in so many ways.

“It’s a boy! Whoooo.” Nathan yelled. “I just can’t— I’m too excited now. I’m gonna call Heidi’s family.. I.. A boy!” And Nathan ran back into the maternity ward.

Peter laughed and Angela smiled bittersweetly -- a small smile that turned into a larger one.

“Looks like you’re an uncle,” Angela told him, as they looked off at Nathan in the distance.

“And you’re a grandmother, how does it make you feel?”

“Old.” She said with her wicked sense of humor.

“Oh, come on. First time grandmothers are always young.” He put his hand on her shoulder and she took her hand in his.

But of course, Angela knew she wasn’t a first-time grandmother at all. And Claire was growing strong and healthy and, most importantly, away from her world, away from being special.

And when their second grandchild, but their first known to the world, was only three days old, Angela Petrelli slapped her husband across the face as soon as he returned home. Not just with her hand, but with her accusations. It was something he was used to by now, not the slapping, but being accused of something he hadn’t yet done.

“You looked at her picture,” Angela said in her demanding tones.

“Whose?” he said as if to say, “Have you not learned by now, I have no idea what you’re talking about?”

“Claire’s.”

“When?”

“We need to keep our objectivity. You know this, Arthur.”

“It’s not fair, Angela. You get to see her. You see her in your dreams everyday. I don’t even know what she looks like!”

Angela walked up to him her eyes brimming with anger and emotion. “Just don’t look at the picture.” She gritted her teeth and left their bedroom.

Five Years Later

When Angela heard through vague Company channels that Claude had been killed, she breathed a silent sigh of relief. Not in an evil way, not in a cruel way, it was just business - family business. Now no one but Angela and her husband, held certain secrets. It was just the way it was.

And on that sunny day in March, Angela Petrelli answered the phone, a call she had been waiting for, a call she had been waiting years to take. She answered in French, serious, with very few words. Short, clipped sentences to save time.

And after Angela hung up the phone she caught her face in the mirror. Her fifty-three-year old face looking back at her and she felt no longer young, but then she hadn’t felt that way in years.

Angela would soon be a grandmother for the second time, officially, that was, another boy for Nathan. The second of “two sons”, just like she had once told Arthur so many years ago, only this time Angela kept her dreams to herself. There would be no prophecies spoken out loud, on this or many other occasions in her sons’ lives. Angela Petrelli would just push her agenda, like most mothers, through cajoling and mother knows best comments. Just another way Angela felt she was protecting her family. Just another way she had no idea she was wrong about. Just another deception; it was all old hat by now.

For Angela had seen her sons and most people at their best and at their worst. To paraphrase what Claude would later tell her son Peter, “how people act when nobody’s around, is who they truly are”; it was, after all, when people showed their true colors. Yes, Angela Petrelli felt she knew her sons better than they knew themselves; it would be just one of many ways she would be wrong. Just another mistake in the fire, too many to mention now. Angela did know her sons, know them very well, and in some respects better than they knew themselves - she just underestimated the fact that they were, after all, her children - that they were, after all, Petrellis.

The next day, while her husband was at work and Angela Petrelli was alone in her house, a housewife and mother whose sons had grown and left the nest, she opened her front door to find a tall, beautiful, Haitian man standing before her. Grown and with a serene look on his face and in his eyes, he smiled at her as if this was a long time coming. Angela smiled back and nodded at the man this boy had become. Around the boy’s neck was the godsend symbol, a gift from the boy’s father, that reminded Angela how much the symbol connected them all and was beyond all logic, it just was. Angela Petrelli may have been the closest thing The Haitian had to a mother, but she was not his mother. Their mutual affection for each other was only based on deep respect and gratitude for acts gone past. She had protected him all those years ago, protected him since. And now it was time for The Haitian to return the favor.


                                                                           ~

Next Chapter: Peter remembers a lesson he learned as a child. Arthur meets Noah Bennett. And Peter and his father are at odds about his new career choice.

 

The Boys

 

 

Comments

Posted by: lit_chick08 ([info]lit_chick08)
Posted at: July 2nd, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)

I love this story so much. I was so glad to see the update when I logged on today.

I love the Arthur/Angela confrontation about Claire's picture, the interaction between Angela/Peter, which is so different from what we've seen on the show and gives such a nice layer to Angela, and I burst out laughing at Arthur's initial explanation about why he fell in love with Angela.

This story is so complex and interesting and you are doing such an amazing job. Keep it up!

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 2nd, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Canon

Oh, thank you so much. You've made my day. Sometimes when I start to think I shouldn't even finish posting it, I am reminded people like yourself are getting it. Thank you. I'm so glad you laughed at Arthur's comment, it was meant to be funny - so glad you agreed.

Thank you for reviewing and please do so again. Hearing such details really helps me as a writer, its the one thing you can do to thank you, if you are indeed injoying my little project - it means a lot to me.

Feel free to rec to your friends. Hehe.

Posted by: wilson03 ([info]wilson03)
Posted at: July 3rd, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)

Another fantastic chapter and I like that part about Adam trying to escape and about angela dreaming about claire as she grew up. Also Arthur saying why he fell in love with angela was so funny. I'm really glad you are writing this story because according to the Behind The Eclipse interview in season 2 they were going to do an episode called '1977' but know that idea is up in the air.

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 3rd, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
Inside your head

Thanks. Glad you thought Arthur's part was funny, that was so the goal.

Yes, I read behind the Eclipse and I am so bummed. It doesn't even look like a possibility at all.

And I knew it was coming, the story just seemed to be going there - plus it was perfect with David Anders, because he would be bridge in the episodes of actors we knew.

In fact, I was so sure of it when the strike happened and I knew I'd have to wait even longer, I wrote this whole story. And I never wanted it to be the final word - I really want to see their ideas. Well, I hope maybe we get some glimmer of what they were like in dialogue. At least we will get some flashback scenes, it would seem - as vague as that is.

Thanks again for your detailed review. Knowing what parts resonate in people is so helpful to me as a writer.

Posted by: Deinifer Pellegrinello ([info]deinifer)
Posted at: July 7th, 2008 05:16 pm (UTC)


I've never mentioned before but i love your sense of humor. And the butt comments was hilarious-Good to hear he's a butt man. Adore Adam, and the fact that he's still a pain in the ass, even when locked-up. I like Hiedi as much as any other, and plus I'm more than just gay for Rena Solfer-She's too pretty to be real.

Here, you gave her the same air the show seems to. Perfect but still just convenient, and existent. It's nice to see Nathan happy again, and i like the part with Heidi being a little scared of Angela-I mean, no offense, but I don't blame her. Oh and the fact that Angela took over the wedding arrangements and all Arthur did was laugth.

The Peter and Angela bond is adorable. And little Peter is so much more pure and childlike than than had ever been. Its nice to see, and sad when you compare his childhood to Nathans. And the fact that Angela is still thinking of Claire in a happy way makes me giddy.

I felt the bond between Nathan and Arthur. So did the one between Peter and Angela. Its almost seems like they are happy. But it breaks my heart that Arthur...had a heart attack. I loved the bit that he came back feeling all alive and...then... :-(

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 7th, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)

OMG, your icon rocks! Thanks! My humor is very important to me, so I take that as a great compliment. You always get all my points, the bond s- the difference between Nathan and Peter's childhood. Thank you for that. And thanks for the compliment on my charaterization of Heidi.

I hope the end gave you a little pause. I put heart attack in "" and I wanted it to happen at a time when he said he was so happy - so it made you go "was it a heart attack?" and make it seem odd that such a man would try to kill himself. I wanted a sense of mystery. I hope that came across also.

Posted by: whatthe ([info]dref22)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
claire noah school

And that was that unlike all of the other Petrellis, Heidi was just nothing special. She was the perfect wife for Nathan in Angela’s eyes.
I loved this...Heidi is a "normal" woman yet Angela thinks that she's perfect for her dear son...I really loved the part where Arthur was apologizing for everything he did especially to Angela. It was kinda sad to see Angela realizing she wasn't young and powerful once she used to be, and it's not just about having grandchildren, I think she started to realize this after they made the decision of giving away Claire...I don't know if I make any sense here...

When Angela heard through vague Company channels that Claude had been killed, she breathed a silent sigh of relief. Not in an evil way, not in a cruel way, it was just business - family business.

Oh, this was cruel! XD Only a morally grey person can breathe with a sigh after hearing something like this. :) I think this is why I love your Angela, she's always in character.

OK, may I tell you how much I'm excited about the next chapter? lol.

Edited at 2008-07-08 07:12 pm (UTC)

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 07:32 pm (UTC)

It was kinda sad to see Angela realizing she wasn't young and powerful once she used to be, and it's not just about having grandchildren, I think she started to realize this after they made the decision of giving away Claire...I don't know if I make any sense here...

No, totally! Yes, Angela I don't think felt young for years, the mandess weighted on her, I do think Claire was the nail on the coffin of whaty her life had become, it was the truth in her face.

Oh, this was cruel! XD Only a morally grey person can breathe with a sigh after hearing something like this. :) I think this is why I love your Angela, she's always in character.

LOL. Yes, but its just business. And thanks, one of my big things was really connected the young naivie Angela to what we know and NOT sugar coating it. Feel free to tell me if I lose the ball. I know some people can't get past the fact that she starts off weak, but I stand by my story-telling - no one, even Linderman, starts off all cruel.

Like Hayden said about FClaire in TV-guide (yes I read it) I saw that and i was like "oh, so Angela. And only in four years..."

Posted by: whatthe ([info]dref22)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)
half smile

I know some people can't get past the fact that she starts off weak, but I stand by my story-telling - no one, even Linderman, starts off all cruel.

Really? If she was that cruel and morally grey from the beginning, she wouldn't be Angela, she wouldn't love her family that much and wouldn't make the decision of giving Claire away...

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 07:57 pm (UTC)
Nathan & Angela Godsend

Well, some people don't think she gave Claire away. lol. So, its all "perspective" as Angela would say.

They think it was all a big government conspiracy and Angela was lying to Claire - she just didn't want Claire to ruin her plans for Nathan to let the bomb go off - insert twilling mustache and train tracks here.

They have ever right to think so, I just don't find any layers in that, and the show is better than that

Or that she doesn't love her children at all, or she loves them, but could care less.

Most people don't see her as Morally grey and compare her to Sylar, which is funny to me because evening Sylar started out as a mild mannered watch salesman with glasses.

What makes me happy is Villians will straigten it all out. I can tell already by the themes Loeb and Kring and cast members have talked about.

Some people don't get nuease, or understand that just because a character thinks something is right, doesn't mean it is.

Angela can THINK she's doing the best for Claire, which means she cares, but it doesn't mean its a great thing or is really giving the chose a chose, but I could go on forever.

I love your answer, but we're so on the same page.

Posted by: whatthe ([info]dref22)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
dark suit

They think it was all a big government conspiracy and Angela was lying to Claire - she just didn't want Claire to ruin her plans for Nathan to let the bomb go off - insert twilling mustache and train tracks here.

Hahaha!!!!

I thought everybody agreed on that there was no goverment conspiracy going on. XD
This isn't X-Files people! :D Well, HRG is like the CSM. XD

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)

Oh, man, you don't roam the boards outside of HRG do you, lol.

I've just given up on my convinceing. Some people just don't trust Angela, half of theme even like her as a character, but feel she is nothing but trustworthy and why would a person like her care about Clarie if she doesn't "Care about her boys" One person I debating with couldn't get past the fact that taking Claire away wasn't a choise. It doesn't matter, its what Angela thought it was, right. We went around in cricles.

Not to mention the fact that Bob and Linderman could have known who Claire was, but that doesn't mean Angela knew they were - she was playing a dangerous game.

I just can't get past, if Angela put Claire away for The Company, why pull her out if Thompson was just going to take her.

Or people don't understand the idea of a Sophie's chose, they don't think putting HRG with Claire was smart. They forget it was "first we made arrangments, Then there was the fire" meaning - it was the best of a bad situation. Maybe its too layered for them, I don't know. But again Villiains will clear that up, so I can wait. :)

I also guessed Peter's blood wouldn't minic out side his body and the Symbol. lol. Sorry, I don't mean to sound like I have an ego. I will have to delete these when were done. lol.

I do hope the use the fact that Kaito did the hand off and was Angela's lover at one point. In fact the Heroes magazine even said. "With help from kaito, Angela hides Claire from the Company, I wonder if that came from anywhere, or is just putting two and two together, like I did?

Posted by: whatthe ([info]dref22)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
kiss

Hehe, no, I'm innocent! XD

LOL, I don't think Villians have to clear up everything at the moment. They are planning to do more season of Heroes, right? So why are the fans so impatient? I think we all need to chill out, at least a little bit. :D

Everything you wrote about Kaito/Angela really makes sense..

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 8th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)

Thanks. I love my Kaito/Angela - writing it made it so much more real to me, but I'll take whatever.

I know, people need to calm down, one reason spoilers are starting to piss me off, how people react to them. There always have to be mysteries and what is great about heroes is they DO answer them, they just pose like five new ones. The problem is people don't get the framework Generations was meant to put down to lead to vol 3 Exodus, and they never will - the strike I hope hasn't killed this show. I hope it goes beyond four years at least.

Posted by: ellie987 ([info]ellie987)
Posted at: July 18th, 2008 12:08 pm (UTC)

Another great chapter! Lighter than usual even if still packed with family issues and Company problems. But I so love the talk between Nathan and Arthur. I so love Arthur's answers and Nathan's shock. It was funny. And it's good to know that now Arthur knows what his mistakes had been. The cerimony was great as well! It's good to see Harry and specially his humor back and I really loved when Arthus kissed Angela in public and then her slap after a few paragraphs. There's this constant struggle and love between those two. I'm totally a shipper,you know this.
I also liked the interaction between Angela and Peter at the beginning and their special relationship,something that she has only with him. But apparently Peter's special to everyone seeing his interaction with Heidi as well.
The end of the chapter was more bittersweet,but I loved it as well,specially seeing Arthur so concerned about Claire and somehow envious of Angela's powers because she could see her in her dreams.
I'm looking forward to reading the next chapter!

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 18th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC)

I know! I'm shipping them so much if we don't even get a little something from them I may be very disapointed. But I'd be fine with a glance or a line about their past and I'm okay.

I look forward to your thoughts on the next chapter.

Posted by: Dee ([info]define_serenity)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 08:51 am (UTC)
gossip girl - grouphug

She was the perfect wife for Nathan in Angela’s eyes. The cycle could stop; Angela only hoped.
Oh yeah, totally saw that coming, seriously loved this!

She knew his plane would be shot down and that the cuts on his chins would later become scars,
Aha, this is is good, explaining his scars like this!

She had no idea it would be the picture she would most treasure when mourning the death of one of them.
That wedding picture is seriously made of win :D

Loved this!!

EDIT: DAAAAAMN I didn't realise this was the final chapter!! *wibble*

Edited at 2008-07-23 08:55 am (UTC)

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 11:34 am (UTC)

:) Gotta love those Petrelli men. :) Thanks.

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 11:35 am (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm about to post the next chapter after I have breakfast. :) And 19 should be up by the weekend, hopefully.

Posted by: Dee ([info]define_serenity)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 11:39 am (UTC)

Oh yay! I can't wait!

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 01:45 pm (UTC)

17 is posted. :) Hope your feeling better?

Posted by: Dee ([info]define_serenity)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC)

I'll check it out when I find some time ;)
And I am feeling better ;) thanks

Posted by: thepandorarose ([info]thepandorarose)
Posted at: July 23rd, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)

Good. I look forward to it. :)

23 Read Comments